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Bright Star - The Keats Movie - A General Discussion
Submitted by laviniawy200 on Thu, 2009-09-03 14:33
A general place to write comments, observations, or feelings about the movie. This forum originally started with the followoing: Just wanted to alert the Brit Lit community (or those who don't already know) that there is a movie- Bright Star- coming out in mid September about John Keats and Fanny Brawne. Thought that was interesting and I'm definitely seeing it!
Ironically enough right before I saw a preview for Bright Star I was cleaning my desk and bookshelf and I happened to come across the Ode on a Grecian Urn handout which was one of my favorite poems we did all year. I was reminded of my love for Keats so I'm excited for the movie!
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Tragic
Man this was sad. We know that Keats dies at a young age but he also died with the love between him and Fanny burning strong. But I thought it was like a Princess and the Pauper thing going on with Keats being poor and Brawne making money off her art. Which by the way, I found it funny how Charles Brown kind of made fun of her work even though hers was getting the job done. I was shocked when I found out Brown was in love with Keats. That was a wow moment.
Back to the love part. Thier young love was so passionate and beautiful. There was a scene where she was laying with butterflies and I think that his purpose was to portray beauty physically so it would make it seem like they had a physical and mental beauty about their relationship. I don't know if that's right but that's what I think.
There's also some arcadia in there! With the tutoring and the love for her tutor. Agh and some FLW with the slander of her name.
Overall, it was a sappy love story with a tragic ending. To romantic movie lovers this is probably genius and irrefutable evidence for a broken heart and everlasting love. But to me, it's just like dang the end was bad but the love was there lol.
-imAclass2014Dolphin
What a Beautiful Movie
This movie was truly wonderfully made. I felt every emotion that Fanny had. it was relate-able, because although not quite as drastically, I have felt the same way as Fanny has at some point in my life, and my poor brother, confused and lonely, had to tag along and sit through the foolishness just as Toots had. I truly felt bad for Toots, because she loved her sister more than anything else, and Fanny always yelled at her one moment, then hugged and kissed her the next.
I was excited when I heard lines from one of the poem we read in Mr. Scotese's class. When Keats was in the garden, and he said “My sense, as though of hemlock I had drunk, or emptied some dull opiate to the drains." I instantly brightened as I remembered the poem. I felt a sense of nostalgia, and I listened to the poem over again as if I had never read it. I was truly beautiful, and the moment was amazing.
The love story is better than many love stories I had seen. It made me want a love for my own like it. Modern love is nothing like this; there is often a sexual connotation, and one knows why one loves another. Keats did not know why he was attracted to Fanny, just that he was. Also, Fanny was attracted to Keats for his wit, and kind nature, not necessarily his looks. Their bond was so strong; nothing could break it. Even after Keats died, Fanny never took off his ring. That was so compelling to me. It almost made me cry. I would watch this movie over and over. It is a classic movie to keep on the shelf for later years.
I liked it
I found the movie, Bright Star, really cute. It was like the Romantic version of The Notebook. I liked hearing the poems that we read in class in the movie. It is kind of funny, my friends (Dansen and Jenny) and I had to read about John Keat's biography in the Elements of Literature textbook briefly before the movie started. We kind-of-sort-of forgot about John Keat's life...Anyways, I remember Mr. Scotese telling us that John Keat's lived a really sad life. John Keats lost his parents at a young age, so he could no access the family finances. Therefore leaving him poor. Plus, Keats lost his brother to tuberculosis. Watching his brother in pain on the big screen just made Keat's life even more tragic.
I felt really happy when Keats and Fanny Brawne fell in love. It was like Keats could finanlly be happy, despite all the hardships he has experienced. Although it was also very sad to see John and Fanny part from time to time. I can't imagine being in Fanny's place. It was even worse to know that they could not marry each other because of Keat's financial status. The ending was sad too. The fact that Keat's died young thinking he was a failure of a poet is depressing. When Fanny was walking through the woods (after hearing Keats died), she kind of reminded of Sara Woodruff from The French Lietenant's Woman.
Me Too!
It reminded me of FLW too! But I forgot all about his hardships when they were together honestly. But his life really wasn't the greatest and it was like Fanny was the silver lining to his dark cloud don'tcha think? But for me, if I had been thinking about how hard his life was, I probably wouldn't have even been able to enjoy the movie as much because then it would have just been like, Yea he's in love but what about the other stuff? I thought it was cool how the movie went back and forth between his happiness and sadness. His sadness was major but the amount of happiness Fanny gave him made it seem like they balanced out when realistically, being in love is nowhere near the amount of pain someone deals with when thier family is dying.
-imAclass2014Dolphin
Sadness equated
After reading Keats' poetry as well as his introduction, I felt a sense of pity and despair for Keats.Here is a man who has all of the talent in the world, and cannot manage his life because of the struggles he faces with his health. Not only that, but to die at such a young age is such a tragedy for anyone, but for somebody that was just discovering his life is even sadder. This is the same feeling I got when I watched bright star. There is no greater heart break than two people who know they can't have what they want for no good reason is among. I think this was easily seen in the mood of the characters as the film progressed. Fanny became irritable to her family members, and Keats was very abrasive towards Gordon, almost blaming him. I'd also like to point out how good the acting was. I had seen Paul Schneider in previous films and shows before, but this was by far his best performance. Fanny's sister was also very good.
A True Love Story
I felt that this movie began very slow but truly did have a realistic representation of love. The idea of two people just wanting to be around each other and doing anything possible to do so is what I see as an ideal love story. They were devoted to each other. We saw countless times where Fannie would go into states of depression where she was unable to be around anyone else because she was missing Keats so much. Their exchanged letters and gestures of remembering each other such as keeping butterflies and Keats cutting a lock of Fannie's hair showed how they wished to be connected regardless of how far away they were from each other.
One major thing that I found saddening about this story was that Keats would not wed her because he felt that he was not qualified to do so. The note at the end of the movie about how Keats died thinking that he was a failure was terrible because its ironic how remarkable of a poet he really was. Besides his sickness I felt that he had a great life because he was in love. Although his leave was partially to help support Fannie financially in the future, I think he made the wrong decision to leave because the money wasn't as important as the love him and Fannie shared.
In comparison to other love stories such as Shakespeare in Love, I felt that Bright Star was much more romantic and portrayed a more realistic look at love. I felt that the Shakespeare in Love movie was too cliche and predictable for me. Although Bright Star was slow I felt that characters such as Brown and Fannie's siblings gave the story more context. Overall I did enjoy the movie because, unlike Shakespeare in Love, there was no happy ending. As sad as that sounds, its true and this is another reason why I felt that was more realistic.
But...
Yea that's how love SHOULD be. But I don't think it was a realistic representation of love. Noone loves like that nowadays. I think it was a realistic representation on how love is suppose to be. There was a poet, maybe it was Robert Burns but he did the exchange of letters with his lover and that reminded me of that while I was watching the movie. But the thought of himself when he died is really sad. I feel if he had known what an impact he had made on poetry and how long his poetry would linger through time, I think he would have died much happier but I also feel like he was focused on his circumstances and not trying to make the best of them poetically. He did not have a great life though. Love is a strong-suit to happiness but it isn't happiness itself. His brother was dying and his mom had died and he knew he was dying. How could that have possible led to a great life if he couldn't even believe how captivating a poet he was? Shakespear in Love is how relationships are now. There aren't many relationships that just focus on the mental aspect of love. Many people feel that love thrives physically and stays strong mentally.
-imAclass2014Dolphin
Nebula
*SPOILERS EVERYWHERE!*
This was a great film. As per Mr. Scotese's lessons, he's taught us to look for "Stephen Booth Moments." These consist of connections between individual words and patterns across lines, scenes, and entire works. There were many in this movies. I really like the delicate language and Fanny Brawn's wordplay. She is a great mind. Toots was a good foil, and Sam a good sturdy cane, much like ones we would see him with when he ventured into the woods
There is a lot of character interplay here. Each serves their purpose and has a role. Tom Keats was John Keats' "first love." Brotherly, of course, but I think that he was a man of a single love, directed and focused. His love was directly linked with his poetic production, as we see strengthen and falter throughout the movie. While Tom was sick (but alive), John had a very difficult time making his way and composing poems. Yet, after his passing, John grows to love Fanny, and thus his poetry grows in both quality and quantity.
I want to point out that in one of their first "date" in the forest, Keats wears blue and Fanny wears a most vibrant red, and I thought of how such a passionate love had come to a man who was previously cold and isolated.
Fanny's, clothing and styles were always evocative of her emotional state, and I really likes how the costume designer (and Fanny) chose each costume for each scene.
It was a great movie, but it wasn't as bad as some think. I'm a bit jaded, but going into it, we know he was going to die, and from all of the other stuff we've read, we know that no one is supposed to want to be married to someone who can't provide materially, so there was a little bit of "Romeo & Juliet" going on, in that their love wasn't ideal. Still a great movie, despite the inherent predictability.
Good movie
When I was watching Bright Star I though that it would be boring because the movie was going so slow. But later on I got so engrossed in it. I felt a connection to the characters and the love between Keats and Brawne was so strong that when John left to London I felt like crying myself. I found it kind of funny how Sam was like Fanny’s guardian and I wondered why he always stared at her with such a serious look. And Fanny’s little sister! She was so cute. I didn't like Brown at all when he would try to keep Fanny away from Keats when he got sick. I found it pointless for him to try and keep them away when Fanny would find a way to communicate with him anyway. Also, the fact that they pretty much lived in the same house was really clever. I found it really sweet how they would touch the wall that was dividing their rooms to mentally feel each other’s touch. It was really emotional and I cried with Fanny when Keats died at the end. I already knew his fate from knowing his background but the impact was still great. But overall Bright Star was a surprisingly good movie and I would recommend it to everyone that loves romance with a touch of tragedy.
Movie
So I am a pretty big sap when it comes to movies and I can be a crier, but though the movie was great I felt that there was a disconnect between the watchers and the characters. It was pretty cool the way they showed how Keats died of Tuberculosis and his brother too; the slow decline of his health but he still loved Fanny Brawne; his poverty and how lowly he thought of himself. I thought that Keats didn’t have any poet friends; at least that is what it said in the Elements of Literature Sixth course Literature of Britain, while in the movie he did have a friend.
my thoughts
I thought that it was a good movie. I liked how it mentioned many works that we have studied previously in class. The only thing I really have to say is that the ending was predictable since we read about Keats's life. The movie had no other possible alternative endings.
Brightstar
Bright Star was a good movie. There was good use of the foreshadowing of Keat's death. There was also a lot of metaphors, such as the butterflies dying when Keats leaves and the comparison of Keat's short life to the short life of a butterfly. The movie was interesting. To be honest, I have never seen a bio-pic before.
Bright Star
Reaction amongst my peers has been mixed. I think we all feel a bit proprietary about Mr Keats and thus tend to be more critical than the average viewer. I found much to like, though I didn't love it, except for one image: As Keats is about to set sail for Italy, he and Fanny lie down together on a bed and are viewed directly from above, as though from the ceiling, curled toward each other in a perfect round-an image of a world, their own world, soon to be split, of course, but an image of such surpassing beauty that it had a whiff of eternity about it. I was moved by the perfection of this, the "eternity in time" visual bodying forth Keats' poetic enterprise.
Bright Star
I rarely show films in class, but after spending several weeks on Second Generation Romantics with my senior students, we watched Bright Star.
Although I like the film very much, I am aware of some of the problems with it. However, my students were enraptured, even the "tough guys" who usually act like poetry and poets are sissy stuff. No dozing, no whispering, no working on homework instead of watching.
And the best part: a few days later I noticed some of my students had purchased their own copies of Endymion and some other Keats volumes and were reading them on the sly while I was introducing them to Frankenstein.
I pretended not to notice!
Keats is my favorite British
Keats is my favorite British poet and I really enjoyed Bright Star. I do not think I spend enough time on him in class because I have to cover so many British poets. I might show the movie this year though.
Seeing Bright Star
I finally got around to seeing it - I liked it a lot - both for its historical background and for what it said about imagination and the act of creation. I'm still not sure if I'd show it in class - but you certainly make a great case for it.
Bright Star
I have yet to see the movie, but dearly want to as I love both Keats and Jane Campion. It is out on DVD this week, so I really have no excuse.
link to the preview for
link to the preview for anyone who is interested
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/brightstar/